Rick Dees:
Still strutting his stuff 23 years after "Disco Duck"

By Carl Marcucci

 

Rick Dees loves radio. Beginning his career well before graduating from the University of North Carolina, he first became nationally known with his song parody, "Disco Duck" at WHBQ Memphis in 1977 (more parodies followed). In '82, he leapfrogged his on-air career to CHR legend KIIS-FM in LA with his now-famous morning drive slot.

With 350 affiliates in 23 countries, Dees has seen tremendous success with the "Rick Dees Weekly Top 40." Now syndicated by Premiere (RBR 10/18/99, p. 3), Dees is likely to see even more success with his morning drive show added to Premiere's roster just today (RBR 1/10, p. 4).

Boasting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and 10 consecutive "Number One Radio Personality of America" Billboard Awards, Dees continues building his career while keeping his roots firmly planted in radio. The short list of TV and movie appearances include: "La Bamba"; "Jetsons: The Movie"; host of "Solid Gold"; roles on "Roseanne" and "Cheers" and guest host roles on Fox's "The Late Show," "American Bandstand" and The Grammy Awards.

We asked Rick about his career, what's next and about his son Kevin who's already capitalized on the next wave-the first "I-Jock" on the KIISFMi website.

You have done mornings on KIIS-FM in LA since 1982. What do you like most about it and why are you still doing it?

It’s just the most fun of anything that I have ever done. Each day is a different show. Every day is a different set of audience and energy. It is a chance to meet a lot of famous people and reflect the times. And to be in the thick of more or less the eye of the storm is the biggest thrill of my life.

What does it take to build a successful radio show such as yours?

I think it is hundreds and hundreds of things. The timing at the end of a joke, the presentation of a sponsor's message, the telling of a story, the staff, the people with whom you share your moments on the air and all, it is just one thing after another. It's a lot of telephone interaction. If you take each one and try to polish it up as much as possible, then it adds up to the whole.

What is your radio history before KIIS-FM?

I started in Greensboro, NC when I was 17. Then I worked at a Country station for about a year, and switched over to Top 40 radio at WCOG-AM [Ridgeland, SC]. I switched over to WTOB in Winston-Salem and then to WKIX in Raleigh when I went to UNC. I drove every weekend from Chapel Hill to Winston-Salem to do a six-hour shift on Saturday and six-hour shift on Sunday for $2.50 an hour. The gasoline that it cost to get there and back erased all of my earnings on the air. So I basically did it for free and really, really enjoyed it. I never even looked at it like I'm not making any money doing this. It was something that after a while, I just enjoyed so much, I said, "Rather than telling people that I was going to be a psychiatrist or dentist, or whatever, I'm just going to be on the radio and see how long that I can do it and make a living out of it."

How did Weekly Top 40 first get started?

We have gone through several incarnations with the countdown. It started with United Stations originally. The United Stations relationship was wonderful. And then, DIR. That company went out of business or was absorbed into another one of these conglomerates. I was offered a chance to go with ABC. They really handled the show well and had a terrific clearance department with Radio Today and Jeff Rich. And Lyn Andrews-she evangelizes a product about as well as anyone I've ever seen.

So the deal with ABC was running out and my contract with KISS and Clear Channel locally was also running out. I had them all run out concurrently. The synergy of having all of these shows under one umbrella was something that was very attractive to Clear Channel. ABC is the best group of people I've known in some time or ever known, but when a business opportunity like this presented itself, we had to look at it. ABC understood, and now it is with Premiere.

So they made you a good offer?

Oh yes, the infrastructure and synergy were so incredible. We started with this show and have others we are doing. We started a company called NetStar [not Steve Youlios' and Alan Fuller's old NetStar] Communications and we are building that up already.

Tell us about NetStar.

NetStar is a co-venture with Clear Channel and I. We have the syndicated morning show-we are just kicking that off. We are going to be syndicating other shows. We have an in-house ad agency that we are probably going to put together; an in-house publishing enterprise; a record company called NetStar Records. That is a fairly full plate right there. All of those entities we could then ratchet up to a point of an IPO here in pretty short order. That could be one, two, three, five years, whatever. We are just taking it one a day at a time.

What are some of the other shows?

We are working on putting together an agreement with [Dees' co-host] Ellen Kaye to do a show. We have been talking to several sports and network sports personalities-so sports shows. [An] ad area where we build, market and put advertising on websites. There's a TV show called "Dees TV." It has just all exploded in the last month, because we have done this deal. What a great partner Clear Channel is! It's a wonderful team. Lowry Mays, for example, and his sons, Randall and Mark, and the Mays family, really have an idea of what the vision of communications is. And they have proven it. Then you add to the mix Randy Michaels and Bobby Lawrence, and I'll be honest with you, it's phenomenal what these guys can accomplish in such a short space of time.

They are kind of superheroes.

They really are and they really love radio. For example, the TV show is something that we have grown out of the radio show. So they really understand a product and appreciate content and content providers. So we put this company together and with their ability to expose the product and my company's ability to create product, promote it and market it, is a wonderful combination.

Are you working with Premiere President Kraig Kitchin on this?

Oh yeah, Kraig Kitchin is in charge of it. You see Kraig is really a genius when it comes to putting a plan together. I really do think that this guy is one of the most cutting-edge broadcasters around. He's very bright and focused and you can imagine how excited I am about having him run this entity.

What about your own "CD Media"?

What has happened is that I have sold all of my assets from CD Media and several other entities to Clear Channel. They own me. If they decide that they don't like me one week and want me to do 15 to 20 hemorrhoid commercials, I'm at their beck and call.

Watch, I've been practicing: "This is Rick Dees for Anusol-the first four letters of our name say it all in Anusol."

Why do you think the Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 show is a good choice for advertisers?

Well, it is advertiser-friendly and advertisers should know I get the biggest kick out of selling products for advertisers. When someone calls me and tells me "We sold more satellite dishes because of what you said," that's really the greatest thrill for me on the air. So, anything that I can do personally to make an advertiser feel like this is a great investment is a day well spent. That is just the essence of it. Our mission statement is to put out the best produced product, the product that has the most real energetic sound and also to put out a product that for an advertiser is something that they feel is a wonderful investment.

Growing up, whom did you listen to on the radio that influenced your career?

There were several, but what comes to mind is that I listened to many comedy records such as Jonathan Winters. I loved Jackie Gleason. Watching the interviews of Johnny Carson was an incredible sensation. Then on the radio, there is a guy named Pat Paterson who did the morning show in Raleigh that I thought was just a genius. Ted Brown in New York. But the most influential person in radio on me has been Paul Harvey. His ability to take words and paint pictures is unequaled.

Your son Kevin is an Internet Jock at KIIS-FMi. How proud are you and does he want to follow in your footsteps?

I am so proud of Kevin and the reason I'm proud of him is that he doesn't want to follow in my footsteps. He has talent that I never even dreamed of and that comes from his mother, Julie. He has the ability to look at someone's face and the sound of their voice, and do an impression, which makes me a fan of his. He has the ability in an interpersonal relationship to make someone feel at ease, which is far beyond his years. And he is such a great person to just hang with. He is just a good friend. He has a lot of great ideas for the Internet. He is developing an Internet network filled with content. He is a marketing genius. He is already the social chairman of his fraternity and he is really coming into his own. So, I'm very proud of him and honored to have him for a son.

You've done some movie rolls, hosted numerous feature TV shows including your own "Into The Night" on ABC and have released some big-selling parody singles. Tell us about that side of you.

I've been real lucky with those comedy albums and songs. To tell you the truth, when the inspiration hits us, we'll go into the studio and knock something out, because let's face it, there are so many talented players around. They know that I have no talent, so they just cover me up with a lot of great music. I'll come up with the concept for a parody song or comedy. That's just a hobby. I certainly don't expect to be thought of as somebody who is going to be in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. My whole niche has been comedy, parody albums and I've been fortunate-we've sold a few.

What about the movie stuff? Is that something that you want to move into eventually or do you really want to keep radio as your main focus?

Radio is my main thrust. Those are just little hobbies that if something comes up from time to time. I'm trained as an actor, but no, actually I'm trained as a bad actor. I went to the University of North Carolina and majored in Radio-TV-Motion Pictures-Acting. Therefore, it is fun to do things like that, but if you could see what it takes for Tom Hanks or Denzel Washington or Jack Nicholson to pull off a role, it is a joke to ever try to get into competition with anybody who is an actor on that level. I am more of a fan of actors. I would rather interview an actor than to be one.

So radio is going to be your mainstay?

Sure, I love being a performer on radio and doing comedy, but radio is it. I just absolutely love it.